Sometimes with pigmented glosses, I need a little lip liner. One of my mom’s golfing buddies recommended this pencil: “It stays on the whole 18 holes!” – translation: five hours of wear even in the hot sun. I fill in my whole lip with these creamy liners and when the gloss wears off, I am left with a long-lasting neutral lip. I also love traveling with these because you don’t need a sharpener. Right now I am using Carmel but am tempted to pick up Spicy Pink for the spring. A word of warning: I found mine at Sephora, but they are rarely in stock so be prepared to hunt around.